#1 Frightening Combo Disciplines 07-09-2016, 06:13 AM What are some of the most nightmare inducing combos you've ever seen or perhaps even created? I'm not. _Someone possessing Obtenebration 5 could put a well-lighted room into total darkness with just shadowplay. It costs 15 experience points to gain this power. Echoes of The shadowed Vizier, Eminance of The Shade Ob5 and Dom5, and Shadow Mark were all the Ob+Dom combos I had) and he was a Knight so he had Potence 4, Auspex 3 and Celerity 1. Lasombra disciplines are OP too, but it's very painful for your allies in a teamfight (everyone except the lasombra are affected by obtenebration) Gangrel have solid disciplines, but the clan is not as organised as Ventrue. Since you can manipulate the tentacles and then turn them to flame you are very safe. She was already regularly engaging in vampirism in the 1950s, and had successfully mutated three women by 1958. Name. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. In the case of. Shroud of Absence (Clanbook Lasombra, page 72, column 2) Obtenebration 3, Dominate 3. Vicissitude. Obtenebration Ogham Potence Presence Protean Quietus Sanguinus Serpentis Temporis Thanatosis Valeren Vicissitude Visceratika Blood Sorcery Abyss Mysticism Akhu Thaumaturgical Counter Magic. It is a single volume revisiting all thirteen clans of the World of Darkness. Link Back: Disciplines. One of the most brokenly powerful Disciplines in the game, since it allow you to spam attacks on your first action each turn. Well, per definition, the clanless don’t get clan disciplines. Necromancy Rituals. Just understand one thing - of the many disciplines, obtenebration is the least directly beneficial along the way. An example of augmentation would be combining serpentis 3 with vicissitude 4, while powers which obviously don’t augment are form of mist and shadow form (protean 5 and obtenebration 5). Ignoring supernatural dangers, mortals and Cainites who leave the protection of cities may. Ic 5+10+15+”12”=42. Three disciplines I like the most by themselves (as a reader, player, game designer, DM, etc. of skin and pulls it away or surgically slices it with the artful caress of a fingertip. Combat with clan disciplines: Oh boy. Finish off with the three physical disciplines at ample levels, top with some basic level Obfuscate, Dominate/Presence, and Auspex. Within the Sabbat, the champion is Obtenebration with 17%. For Unique disciplines (Protean, Obtenebration. In V1-20, combo disciplines don't take slots. Way of Sorrow. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. It adds some unique flexibility to the clans Disciplines for the clans which do not have a tradition of sorcery or at least those within the clans who do not know blood sorcery. 2nd. It is basically the same power as the Auspex 2, Daimoinon 1 power that reveals holy things, but it shows demonic stuff. Like maybe Obtenebration was discovered by Tzilah when Caine confined her to her room, and that it was something Lilith mastered long Before. armor of the abyss (obtenebration/fort) conjures shadow armor, with a rating equal to your fortitude vicissitude can (with st permission) give yourself the carapace merit there's a protean power (forget the name rn) that lets you poof into mists as a reaction, and there's an equivalent combo discipline that mists you for a full turnChimerstry is the trademark Discipline of the Ravnos that conjures illusions into existence. Regardless, the effects of Obtenebration are. Lesser powers of this path are clumsy in their control of the body, but become increasingly precise and. It was developed by the line in the nights when it fulfilled its almost forgotten role as warriors against a greater darkness, and gives them power over darkness itself, controlling shadows and eradicating light. Proficient. Featherstone. Some disciplines do have rules for multiple powers each level too. Quietus 4 and Potence 3 and either Vicissitude 5, Protean 2 or Protean 5, Vicissitude 2. Character Name: Clan: Bloodline:Need some help understanding the commonly held ideas about the rarity (or lack thereof) of the Disciplines. Disciplines Experience. Amalgams. The path has a mental effect, and otherSo you could buy all the Level 1 and Level 2 powers, but you'd buy them at dots 1, 2, 3 and 4 (hypothetically). Onyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. when activating astral projection while obtenebration 5 is active you may bodily enter the astral in your shadowbody form. Which Clans and Bloodlines would remain as interesting and which ones would seem kind of pointless?Lasombra are helpless vs Obfuscate, Presence, Thaumaturgy (Path of Blood/Lure of Flame is strong), and Animalism5. I feel like the Baali would make great use of either of these Disciplines to torment others. How do you make combats challenging when a character has this ability?Business, Economics, and Finance. 4 Mortis. Especially Dexterity. Make it a ghoul. Let me know what you think. Objects summoned via this path bear two distinctSerious discussion - FOR FUN - Best Discipline. The Tremere already have dominate as a clan discipline. They opted for Combo disciplines. Spend. Some believe it to be merely shadows, while others feel that the power gives control over the stuff of the vampire's soul, coaxing it. Combo-dis: Vicente de las Navas de Tolosa's Holy Shield - Obten 2 + Fortitude 1 => There are suspicions that this. Non-Supernatural Stock NPC creatures in the Oblivion Orb are instantly killed. They can practically hold off entire armies. First edition has just ten disciplines. Obtenebration 5. For those discipline levels with an Area Effect (Obtenebration Success: Successes determine the total area affected as de1 and 2) the size of the area is determined by the number of scribed in the introduction above. fandom. So, Presence 1 and Dominate 1 give you a relatively similar levels of power, so do Protean 5 and Obtenebration 5. Each power lists its prerequisites alongside its effects. Combo power using Potence and Necromancy. Custom Discipline Requirements: MET Mechanics: By the power of your blood you instantly sprout two additional arms. There's nothing about Obtenebration that is specifically unique to Lasombra. Discipline Power Levels Required Book Page . Echoes of The shadowed Vizier, Eminance of The Shade Ob5 and Dom5, and Shadow Mark were all the Ob+Dom combos I had) and he was a Knight so he had Potence 4, Auspex 3 and Celerity 1. This creates a terrifying storm of entropy within the shroud that is harmful to those who remain within it. In the newest edition (V5), the Discipline of Oblivion now replaces all the various Disciplines that previously involved contacting otherworldly entities (e. In V1-20, combo disciplines don't take slots. Each power lists its prerequisites alongside its effects. Blood Sorcery Rituals - Including Akhu (formerly called "Setite Sorcery"), Dur-An-Ki (formerly called "Assamite Sorcery"), Koldunic Sorcery (Tzimisce kolduns), Nahuallotl (Tlacique), Sadhana, sihr, Thaumaturgy (Tremere), and Wanga (primarily Serpents of the Light), but not Dark Thaumaturgy, Mortis, Necromancy, or Obtenebration. There are also coils, scales, merit based powers, and bloodline gifts. Combo-dis: Vicente de las Navas de Tolosa's Holy Shield - Obten 2 + Fortitude 1 => There are suspicions that this. The Fiend simply grabs a handful. The Strength of the attack is the caster's Obtenebration rating; so a Shadowstrike which gets 4 successes on the roll to hit, used by a Lasombra with Obtenebration 5, has a damage dice pool of 8. 2: You'll probably have Dominate, and you can set conditions for mesmerize. That Combo-Discipline is just based on Obtenebration and Obfuscate interacting. Clarke, Clarke’s Third Law (NOTE: This is a work in progress, blending ideas from several sources and several games. Disciplines > Obtenebration. Within the Sabbat, the champion is Obtenebration with 17%. OoC Discipline: Dementation or Obtenebration. Reducing Stamina by Obtenebration rating or half obtenebration rating (please then state if round up or down) is a nice move, i like it if lower discipline levels progress if the character progress within the discipline (like the dice pool bonusses from Auspex 1 are always full Auspex rating). Before this degenerates, I will tell all of you that best is subjective, and thus you will all come up with totally different answers. Obtenebration/Auspex . Auspex. Obtenebration 4. Dominate's aspect of the curse of vampirism is that it devalues the basics of true friendship or intimacy. Celerity, Vicissitude, Protean is one of my favorites. Ars Speculorum, the Art of Mirrors, is detailed in VTR: Mythologies Bullet-pdf Bullet-nip, a book for Vampire: The Requiem which discusses a number of folk beliefs about vampires. It explains how this works in the V5 core, pg. * Mirror Forge Allows you to see through a reflective surface you created ** Reality of Reflection Allows you to alter small details of reflections in a reflective surface you created *** Mastery of Reflection Allows you to completely alter reflections inAppendix 3: Weapons & FirearmsObtenebration was already cool and powerful enough when you add in combo disciplines like Abyssal Armory. There's nothing about Obtenebration that is specifically unique to Lasombra. The three physical Disciplines (Celerity/Fortitude/Potence) are basically innate and don't require a teacher. The nature of the darkness invoked by Obtenebration is a matter of intense debate among Kindred. Thaumaturges practicing the art of Alchemy can manipulate the forms of solids, liquids and gases. According to research, they were originally formed in the 1800’s and has been hunting vampires ever since. Though not impossible it's unlikely that he would have learned Fortitude 1, Obtenebration 2 (one of these would be Out-of-Clan) and on top of that developed this combo-discipline in the short span of 30 years. This bond with your blood can either be through lineage or blood bond. Restriction can be by Clan, Sect, and/or Road/Path. N/A. You will be using all of your Downtimes to train Vicissitude combo disciplines, and increasing your power in the Discipline. Aegis Of Entropy ( XXX - Page X ) Prerequisites: Fortitude 3, Mortis (The Grave's Decay) 1. V20 DA has moved the timeline to 1242 but i still see you point. With the introduction of other clans, they began adding new Disciplines, but generally, these either weren't core to the concept of vampires, or else they could be easily folded into other Disciplines, or could be replicated through the use of devotions, which they started developing in Revised edition as combo Disciplines and. The laws of chemistry do not bind Warlocks employing the powers of transmutation. But Obtenebration is not just that. With Oblivion, the. This power combines the basic principles of Obtenebration and Obfuscate. First edition has just ten disciplines. I remember there is one combo discipline obtenebration and valeren (or fortitude?), It allows you to resist the dark forces. Obtenebration Combo disciplins. i played in a game of vampire once and the gm used alucard as the sheriff and was a blast and she used him in a way that did not take away our enjoyment of the gameObtenebration page 1 of 2 1 2 next » While other creatures in this World of Darkness draw their powers from many different places, The vampires have adopted and manipulated their blood into being able to acomplish amazing tasks. Vicente de las Navas de Tolosa’s Holy Shield Fortitude 1, Obtenebration 2 . Obtenebration Combo Disciplines . close menu Language. It is intended for gamers and gamemasters playing & running White Wolf Vampire games in the "old" World of Darkness setting and intended to be a reference list so that you can organize the Terms. I have a player who is currently developing their own Combo-discipline. They are also capable of exposing infiltrators before they breach the clan's havens and hiding places. I remember there is one combo discipline obtenebration and valeren (or fortitude?), It allows you to resist the dark forces. Obtenebration Combo Disciplines. Chimerstry in V5. Ooc 7+14+21=42. As an example of fixing a minor loophole, Lasombra are known for two disciplines: Obtenebration and Dominate. Inspire terrible fear of the darkness into a target. Obtenebration's abyss is from the underworld and it was this obvious all this time?) The lack of 6+ disciplines curbs ambition and reduces the chance of diablerie. Versatile, evocative, flashy enough to warrant caution and "oh shit, someone saw us" moments yet powerful enough to warrant use nonetheless. It was a Potence 3/ Obtenebration 3 combo. Example: rules/lore as written, the. since V20's larger Discipline list and ability to learn unlimited Combo Disciplines alleviates some of the need for these things): 1) The breaking up of the physical Disciplines into multiple distinct powers gives you more places to add bonuses for Clans. That's always the big complaint about Thaumaturgy/etc. The Strength of the attack is the caster's Obtenebration rating; so a Shadowstrike which gets 4 successes on the roll to hit, used by a Lasombra with Obtenebration 5, has a damage dice pool of 8. I was reading White Wolf wiki and came across this: Disciplines have broadly changed to make them less helpful in combat and more helpful in other ways. Serpentis. Amalgams aren’t additional flavor powers you buy once you learn Discipline levels. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. - or shockwave with potence + celerity. 01-25-2020, 12:03 PM. Obtenebration's focus on Occult for pretty much all its powers actually gives it a significant leg up over a lot of other Disciplines. Vincente de las Navas de Tolosa is a Lasombra who. Now it ‘only’ adds pool to fortitude. Society of Leopold. Definitely adds more choices to players and combo powers are more accessible. Obtenebration (VTM. With the introduction of other clans, they began adding new Disciplines, but generally, these either weren't core to the concept of vampires, or else they could be easily folded into other Disciplines, or could be replicated through the use of devotions, which they started developing in Revised edition as combo Disciplines and. Harrier XP Cost: 7XP Auspex 1 Obfuscate 5 Used by the most sadistic of Kindred, this Discipline allows the user to openly stalk his prey, invisible to all but his intended target who is quickly driven mad with fear and paranoia. 18 XP. If the shadow is destroyed, the vampire loses half of her willpower, must make a Rötschreck roll at difficulty 9, and can not use this power for a. You do not learn exactly. Each combination discipline below requires Vicissitude in addition to at least one other discipline. Obtenebration is the power Peter Pan less uses as a jerk). Obtenebration: OP, simply OP, when used properly. One theory holds that its secrets were taught to the Tremere by demons and that use of it brings the practitioner dangerously close to the infernal powers. Some home-brewed Obtenebration combo-disciplines. Primal Disciplines can be learned by anyone that possesses Vitae within their system. Dark Steel is a Combination Discipline between Obtenebration 3 and Potence 3. It was developed in the latter half of the 20th century, and has not yet spread far beyond the North American Pontifices. ** Requires: Dominate 5 AND ETHER Obfuscate 5 (Eminence of Shade) OR Vicissitude 5 (Conquering Blood) Cost 35 XP->. 1 Fortitude Mortis (The. If this combo seems obscure, remember that the. With this power, Gangrel bring truth to that legend. To make this list easier to scan through, they are sorted into pages by Main Discipline. "If you leave the town's borders, return here" "if you talk to the police, try to kill them" "if you defect, kill your kids" Now sure, you can only apply one mesmorize to a person and can't get them to kill themselves, but they. They were on to your antics before you even started them. Obtenebration 5 was the ability to turn into a shadow, not into a war form. Prophecies. Essentially, the Society of Leopold is a faction of vampire hunters, old and powerful. Ninthshadow • 4 yr. If you want them to do spectacular things as a Clan instead of just one gifted individual, that’s what combo disciplines are for. Obtenebration Special Effects & Rules Obtenebration functions as described in the side bar on page 66 of Clan Book: Lasombra; which is to say that its uses are obvious breaches of the Masquerade. Properly used, Merits and Flaws help players create and individualize their characters. Which of the combo disciplines is your favorite? Everyone gets their own criteria, so you might choose the funniest, most creative, the one that helps the story the most, the sneakiest, or the most dangerous. There's a vicissitude 2 power that allows you to use bat echo location (auspex 2). However, any time an Obtenebration power invokes the caster's Strength and Dexterity, like Black Metamorphosis, Potence and Celerity apply as normal by default. According to legend, some berserkers take on the fearsome aspect of bears while in the midst of their battle rage. It's not just darkness or shadows. Onyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. In the Dark Ages Vampire contained: "Obtenebration is part of God's curse on Cain. As a result, they've combined similar disciplines, giving characters more versatility, and putting the Clans on equal footing since nobody has a unique discipline anymore, but every clan has a couple of signature amalgams that combine 2 in-clan. The signature power of the Lasombra, Obtenebration grants the vampire power over darkness itself. The coinage of the term Discipline is credited to the Cainite scholar known as Trimeggian through his Encyclopaedia Haemovoria - and although not every vampire will necessarily use it, this denomination has become quite popular among kindred society. Carry a Flare Gun. Description: The wolf’s howl echoes across the land, carrying messages in its mournful song. Animalism has way more uses than people think, and it's rarely suspected or detected by non-users. Say, you want a vampire who becomes a flock of ravens instead of a bat or mist?. The signature power of the Lasombra, Obtenebration grants the vampire power over darkness itself. As. I'd rule against it. The Discipline is good for offense, disguise, escape, and is a fun passtime. Beast’s Vigor Animalism 3, Fortitude 3 Description: Through the bond of regnant and thrall, a vampire with this Discipline technique can use the vitality of a nearby animal ghoul to absorb her injuries. Both isnt really viable. Shape of the Beast (for other animal forms), Restore the Mortal Visage, Shadow of Apep, not sure what else. I suppose you could make a combo discipline, but I don't know off the top of my head how they would mesh thematically. Point is: don't fawn over it - there are better disciplines to prioritise at first. Inner Darkness (Obtenebration 8; Players Guide to the High Clans) reduces the likelihood of the user frenzying, amongst other abyssal effects Siren’s Song (Presence 6; Clanbook Toreador) can render others less likely to frenzy Cooperation (Presence 7; V20) reduces the likelihood of frenzy in others Combo-disciplinesLore of the Clans is a sourcebook for Vampire: The Masquerade 20th Anniversary Edition. All combination disciplines are considered rare and are Restricted for player characters unless approved by Admin. Thus with Thaumaturgy level 5 and Intelligence Level 5, a character would. Why do some disciplines have 4-5 powers per level (Obtenebration), where others have only 1? It seems really odd that Obten has so many powers at higher levels, where others just get 1 or 2. Making it prohibitive for regular play at a regular table is obnoxious design. 04-07-2014, 04:00 AM. Each power lists its prerequisites alongside its effects. Share with: Link: Copy link. First edition has just ten disciplines. The ritual Enchant Talisman is used to envelope other rituals, such as wards. Obtenebration: 1) Shadow Play - You can manipulate existing shadows, moving them according to your will and even using them to weaken your targets. 6) that allows a. Cadmiumcadamium. Certain Sabbat rituals, though more related to worship of Cain. Obtenebration creates impenetrable. Sibylus • • 3 yr. Any Kindred. I've got a 124-ish page reference document stuffed full of published combo Discipline powers, and most of them predate VtR's Devotions. Interesting that a combination of shadow manipulation and mega-hypnosis duplicates high levels of Obfuscate. Night Sight - the vampire is able to see in total darkness. Who cares about the masquerade when you NEED to win and survive. He was Obtenebration 6 (walk the abyss) Dominate 5, (combo disciplines out the wazu. To make this list easier to scan through, they are sorted into pages by Main Discipline. The. a Willpower and a Vitae to activate this power for the. Dominate also dulls the empathy of the user, and one must take care not to become accustomed to. So wrap a Vampire up in normal tentacles, then activate this power. Explosive Elixir. Quietus acts as a catalyst while the other part of Protean/Vicissitude allows the entity to form claws. Veja grátis o arquivo toaz info-revised-guide-vampire-combo-disciplines-pr 4639e84c2e692b34d394ac906654ae8f (1) enviado para a disciplina de Rpg Categoria: Outro. Formerly known as Obtenebration, V5's Oblivion signifies the Lasombra's mystical access to the shadows and darkness - a representative of the Vampire's affinity to the occult. Obtenebration is the trademark Discipline of Clan Tenebra and is essentially the unearthly control of shadow itself. en Change Language. _Someone with only Obtenebration 2 would be able to dim the lights of a room from “Well lighted” to Heavy shadows (-3 to perception, +1. Necromancy Rituals. The only way to really be a tank is to have Fortitude, Serpentis 3, and heavy armor. pdf), Text File (. Cadmiumcadamium. Obtenebration. Smothering. Merits are special abilities or advantages that are rare or unique in the general Kindred population, while Flaws are liabilities or disadvantages that pose challenges to a. . Caitiff // Pander. Dominate & Mytherceria. So powers, even Auspex powers, interacting with it can only be used by vampires that have access: Malkavians. System: This power enables a character to know which, if any, of the three physical Disciplines (Celerity, Fortitude, Potence) another character possesses and at what level. I'm also over underpowered stuff for the sake of 'balance'. It was designed as an ST tool so Lasombra would be scary, terrible antagonists. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. From my understanding, before a character can learn an OOC discipline, they need to drink the blood of a teacher who knows it and then the teacher actually teaches the character. The auspex was still useful despite having the Dark Sight flaw due to the. 3 Obtenebration. Thaumaturgy (for blood potency), Protean, Celerity. The rather erratic way to learning in most of the Sabbat factions, is good to learn a lot of things, but with lacking depth. Also. The rest of the common eight Disciplines require a BP/teacher/etc but are still available with minimal fuss. Obtenebration 5. Its literally the same, until you get to the 4th dot. Onyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. These arms aid you in combat. Kuei-Jin disciplines: teacher necessary, no blood. N/A. crusades against the infernal. It is mostly for visual effects, as the character is a mysterious and cryptic ally of the PCs who MAY be demonic. This action is an automatic breach of the masquerade. For the cost of an additional willpower on top of the normal. Protean. Daimoinon. A clan that uses. Some disciplines do have rules for multiple powers each level too. This is made somewhat easier to grasp if you're familiar with Combo Disciplines, where it requires having a level in both, but the final power is a. Finally, Amalgams can partially fall into a Clan’s preferences, meaning while it’s obvious that the Tzimisce will learn vicissitude most easily, it’s still a bit easier than most for a Gangrel or Ventrue to acquire it, since they have one of the two disciplines involved (protean and dominate). Properly used, Merits and Flaws help players create and individualize their characters. A combo Obtenebration 4+Potence 3 power (or just Obt. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Now, with the current explanatory sidebar on eye contact (V20, p152) it's not an issue, but once it was hard to tag-team the two disciplines. Also, is there. The player spends one BP and over the next few seconds the vampire's muscles bulge and twist while heavy fur. 09-22-2021, 07:10 AM. The damage is lethal, however a combination Discipline of Obtenebration 3 and Daimoinon 3 makes the damage Aggravated. From the Onyx Path catalog: The introductory fiction, where neonate Drusilla meets veteran researcher Beckett and both discuss the difficulties of gathering verified information about the history. The Lure of Flames is greatly feared, as fire is one of the surest ways to bring Final Death upon a. That Combo-Discipline is just based on Obtenebration and Obfuscate interacting. divination habits with Malkavians (and maybe some other clans like Hecata). Lasombra Combined Disciplines. The origin of the. Lasombra Shadowplay: Maybe change that to. The Obtenebration version of this power may be used to possess living beings as well as other vampires of higher generation. The Lasombra tend towards using the entropic power of Oblivion. Still, there are some Lasombra who maintain active roles in particularly sensitive plots, even if it means venturing into the dangerous realm of daylight. But the PCs. I'mma divide it into three categories: Established Disciplines: Basically disciplines that are at least not super rare, so while not everyone knows Protean or Obtenebration, these are. A second opinion has been advanced that theAppendix 2: Sample CharactersThe shadow has no disciplines, except for Obtenebration at half that of the vampire, and its abilities and attributes are half those of the vampire, except for Stealth, which is that of the vampire. Thaumaturgy. Exclusivity is implied but not outright stated for certain disciplines like Draught of the Soul or Birthing the Vozhd. This does NOT meanChimerstry effects are represented with Obfuscate-Presence combo-discipline cards and a card that requires both Presence and Ravnos. With the introduction of other clans, they began adding new Disciplines, but generally, these either weren't core to the concept of vampires, or else they could be easily folded into other Disciplines, or could be replicated through the use of devotions, which they started developing in Revised edition as combo. Some believe it to be merely shadows, while others feel that the power gives control over the stuff of the vampire’s soul, coaxing it tangibly. Symbolized in oinos, or wine, and orgy, the cults of Dionysus spread their intoxicating07-12-2014, 07:52 PM. Code Test. This concept relies on a. With Animalism. 4 N/A. Obtenebration 4. You may briefly detach yourself from your emotions, making all feelings and even your greatest passions seem distant and unimportant. Combo Disciplines. Vicente de las Navas de Tolosa’s Holy Shield Fortitude 1, Obtenebration 2 . Box of Secrets. You create a zone where nobody thinks to look -. If it is not a clan discipline, you need (a) more XP, (b) a teacher, (c) must have tasted the blood of a user of the discipline. Created to replace the rituals practiced by the clan in the days when it was a band of mortal wizards,The origins of this path are hotly debated among those who are familiar with its intricacies. So, every Clan that they created after the initial seven Camarilla Clans had a signature Discipline and just about every Bloodline had one too. Which Clans and Bloodlines would remain as interesting and which ones would seem kind of pointless?Welcome to the Saligia Wikia. While 27% of Pander try to get respect using Potence. Obtenebration and the Abyss is one of my favorite, and least developed concepts in Masquerade. However, with this database it should now be easy to incorporate all of the new (and old) powers into. With Disciplines, a vampire can exert the strength of a dozen men, force an enemy into thrall,. With the penchant for V5 to combine the formerly specialty disciplines into the more traditional disciplines like Serpentis into Protean or Necromancy and Obtenebration into Oblivion which I like for the record would you see them moving Chimerstry into either Presence or Auspex as a valid alternative? I. I cribbed a bit from the combo discipline "Flesh Wound" and simply incorporated it into the Gangrel toolkit. There are so many creative solutions for combat involving Presence, Thaumaturgy, Daimonion, Temporis, Obtenebration even Dementation or Chimerstry. g. For instance, it's very typical for players and storytellers alike to assume that the "physical disciplines" (Potence, Celerity, and Fortitude) are very easy to learn, don't necessarily require instruction, and are very common among any clan or. Potence and Celerity in particular are the best combo in a fight. Despite that, there is no even spread across all disciplines. obtenebration had the cool factor, but too many powers were locked into the 6+ levels. Shadow. The Society of Leopold is a faction within the Inquisition who exist to pursue and fight supernatural creatures. Objects created with this power last until the end of the scene or an. Some ground rules: Any Clan is possible, out of clan disciplines are possible, character can be up to 7th gen (so lvl 6 disciplines are possible, including multiple powers from the same discipline), any canon powers are allowed , including combo-disciplines (1st ed-V20DA, including Dark Ages powers). The nature of the darkness invoked by Obtenebration is a matter of intense debate among Kindred. More specific tactics would be to strap a super strong strobe light to your person. V5 has ditched high level Disciplines, bringing them at level 4-5: generally speaking, Elder powers have been retconned through the specific math of the new edition (Blood Potency rerolls, bonus dice, Blood Surge, exploding criticals etc). So each discreet power is just an example of something an Elder could learn to do. Needing humans to prey upon, vampires are often urban creatures, bur the Dark Medieval world is overwhelming rural. If I remember correctly, the Armor of the Abyss is Fortitude 3/ Obtenebration 3? If so, it's probably rare, but worth it. Some combo disciplines you may want, obtainable with the Dominate and Obtenebration you already intend to buy: Echo of the Subtle Vizier: you can silently issue a Dominate command and even delay its impact for up to an hour Shroud of Absence: if you don't want to take all of Obfuscate, consider this. Ghouls get a dot of Potence. Combat with clan disciplines: Oh boy. Mistakenly believed by many to be related to the four basic elements (earth, air, fire and water), this path is actually closer to an amalgamation of Spirit Thaumaturgy and. So a few questions: 1- Is a teacher necessary or can blood suffice? For instance if a PC drinks the blood of a gangreal (but does not diablerise them) would they NEED a teacher to. Probably Obtenebration, Sielanic Thaumaturgy (because it's an. Nosferatu and Gangrel with this Discipline technique may do the same, enabling them to howl messages that carry for miles. You can disturb Obfuscate with: - Presence 2. Merits are special abilities or advantages that are rare or unique in the general Kindred population, while Flaws are liabilities or disadvantages that pose challenges to a. One of my players became really confused between the two at one point and thought they could mix and match, until we really began to clarify between the two very different practices of obtenebration and necromancy. Obtenebration powers up to level three are used at -2 difficulty, and the blood point cost for Arms of the Abyss is halved. I'm going to make a case for a few of my favorite disciplines, because they are useful (I mean, you want powers that get stuff done. It's the Abyss, the void, Antimatter and God knows what else. - There is an Obtenebration/Daimoinon Combo Discipline which causes Arms of the Abyss to take the form of black flames. Pulse of Undeath Requirements: Heightened Senses & Prowess You may read any person you perceive to gauge their supernatural strength; you immediately learn whether they have any supernatural physical powers, and if they are a vampire or ghoul also learn what physical disciplines they have (Celerity, Fortitude, or Potence). Thaumaturgy (for blood potency), Protean, Celerity. Illusions have thousand and one uses. Obtenebration is a Discipline focused on manipulating shadows, Necromancy is focused on manipulating the dead, whether physically or spiritually.